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Thread: Let's Improve PvP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis Driance (Yew) View Post
    I'd have to disagree with you Pierre. I don't make myself out to be a great PvPer by any means, but I do hold my own pretty well against mages 1v1. I play 1 character, a dexxer, I'm sure you all know me. Theres really only a few mages that I have trouble with on a consistent basis. HMU, black tea, azria/PW to name a few. I use high end weapons, generally a power fork and bow, (i prefer the bow for speed) and this keeps the mages on the defensive on a consistent basis. I agree it is frustrating to miss a swing and have all your dmg negated on a gheal, but I don't see any feasible way you can get around that without making dexxers too OP. 1v1 any well stocked dexxer should be able to keep an average to good mage on the defensive 1v1, it may take you a while to kill them, or they may recall out or run away, but that is a victory to me nonetheless.

    I think ViolentBeard had a good suggestion, which was to adjust the chance to hit vs GM wrestling so that it's less "lucky" as people like to say.

    As a dexer, if someone doesn't want to fight you they don't really have to. This makes it really rare that you get a kill 1v1, and these long draconian fights dexers engage in are so easily escaped once the person you're fighting decides that they don't have the advantage. Unfortunately, I only consider kills a victory

    Also, you have to roll around with high end weapons/armor and plenty of stock. Mages don't have that as a necessity.

    I still enjoy the concept of a dexer but 1v1, a good mage can beat a good dexer any day and in group fights dexers (even the yew swarm) are a rarely-successful joke when it comes to actual killing power.

    Imagine how many kills you'd get if your group could sync dump instead of "bow dump"; It's not balanced

    edit: wording and typos
    Last edited by PierreCatman; June 22nd, 2012 at 08:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis Driance (Yew) View Post
    Are you talking about me or Pierre, African? My feedback is pretty simple stuff, I didn't really read the thread too thoroughly but I don't think its wildly unrealistic to expect most people who PvP would agree Qstaffs are slightly unbalanced and mini heal could use a tweak.
    You. How about not trying to balance a class you don't play?

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by African View Post
    You. How about not trying to balance a class you don't play?
    As much as I don't really care about Yew, this is a pretty weak argument African. It would make more sense if you were attacking his points specifically with criticisms or counter-points.

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    dexxer circle jerk, I could post a nice long paragraph of why your all wrong, but ipy 2.5 is everyone gets to add in one change it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
    dexxer circle jerk, I could post a nice long paragraph of why your all wrong, but ipy 2.5 is everyone gets to add in one change it seems.

    Please do, I would love to learn more about the game and become a better player

    Otherwise, it sounds like you're full of ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierreCatman View Post
    Please do, I would love to learn more about the game and become a better player

    Otherwise, it sounds like you're full of ****
    have you ever noticed that the best mages are the best dexxers ?
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  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Axel View Post
    have you ever noticed that the best mages are the best dexxers ?
    Have you ever seen the best dexers beat the best mages?

    If you're implying player skill, that's fine. But azria/pow wiz get much more accomplished on their mages, as do the other players you would lump in that category

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierreCatman View Post
    Have you ever seen the best dexers beat the best mages?

    If you're implying player skill, that's fine. But azria/pow wiz get much more accomplished on their mages, as do the other players you would lump in that category
    You're a fool if you lose to a mage 1vs1 on a dexxer. Learn to play before you post.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Gore View Post
    You're a fool if you lose to a mage 1vs1 on a dexxer. Learn to play before you post.
    Once again, an insult and not an argument. Try reading my posts next time and using some of what I've said to make yourself sound halfway intelligent


    Also: I'm still waiting for that paragraph Axel... I WANT TO LEARN
    Last edited by PierreCatman; June 22nd, 2012 at 09:25 PM.

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    Let's put our handbags away please and post constructively!! We don't have to all bash each other always..
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