Let's Improve PvP

[nsa]

mini heal nerf or make fireball disrupt and not be a delayed thing like ebolt. something is needed because someone should not be able to spam mini heal to live like they are now.. Make people use some tactics not just spam a mini heal to live.

[[Majestic]Wire]

Thanks for not including me and my guys Wire.

*Runs home* /wrist

Also as a long time macer, Q staffs do not need to be nerfed at all. You have 25 stam, deal with it. The most I can ever hit for with a Qstaff is like 20, vs a hally that can top at 40. Add a dp'd kat to the mix and how does macing need to be nerfed again?

Hey sorry mate but i have no idea who you are ? also said i forgot a few names..

[[Majestic]Wire]

i love when people do spam mini heal then i pull off my combo and kill them. even with high ping.. i do say again.. if none of the 20 or more people that pvp alot and enters turnaments every months say it dont need a nerf where does your idea come from..


Im not up for nerfing mini heal its fine as it is..

[[Majestic]Wire]

I'd suggest stop making lists like 5th grade girls do about who is a "respected PvPer" and should have their opinions heard. Instead generate some ideas and I'm sure Az is looking for the common denominator changes. I'm also sure he knows who the core PvPers are and at the very least will subconsciously weight his decision based on their input...

I agree with Jay for the two reasons he's listed that there should be a dungeon or something that is only boat accessible. It's good for RP reasons and it makes for an adventure rather than another rune in your rune book you cycle through when you're bored. Primarily though, it is a crafting incentive, like Jay mentioned.

Speaking of... I hope there will be a forum to express ideas for crafting - it's kind of stale (farmable colored leather, PvE plate, custom alchemy, etc...)

Problem is i dont belive az knows that since he havent played ocb like me since day 1 ?
Besides Az do not know that much about the pvp he sayd that before.

What makes you so sure. ? its not like there havent been post like this before ! ? and it doenst aperently help with 1000 ideas from the whole shard.. !

Thats why i came up with the round table idea with alot of selected players many can vouch for.. dont understand you hatein on that i idea.
All i want is and inprovement of the pvp we have now and not HUGE change like done back in the days with OSI..

Cuz huge changes tent to ruin the game for alot of people!

and just that you at the end of your post start to talk about crafting just proves to me that you dont even belong on this post, since you aperently have other concernce, please stick to them.

[Stencils]

i love when people do spam mini heal then i pull off my combo and kill them. even with high ping.. i do say again.. if none of the 20 or more people that pvp alot and enters turnaments every months say it dont need a nerf where does your idea come from..

Mini heal, Xiri

[[Majestic]Wire]

ive seen that forgot about it aperently
but I still dont see it as a huge factor to make pvp better but anyways if a nerf should be voted for the nerf should be tiny atleast .

[Kalanmyr]

Problem is i dont belive az knows that since he havent played ocb like me since day 1 ?
Besides Az do not know that much about the pvp he sayd that before.

What makes you so sure. ? its not like there havent been post like this before ! ? and it doenst aperently help with 1000 ideas from the whole shard.. !

Thats why i came up with the round table idea with alot of selected players many can vouch for.. dont understand you hatein on that i idea.
All i want is and inprovement of the pvp we have now and not HUGE change like done back in the days with OSI..

Cuz huge changes tent to ruin the game for alot of people!

and just that you at the end of your post start to talk about crafting just proves to me that you dont even belong on this post, since you aperently have other concernce, please stick to them.

Listen man, nothing against you personally - but you and the other people on your list aren't the only ones who play here. I respect everyone's input, even Edgar, who I think is a complete tool - and you should too. ****ty ideas will be brought up once and shot down immediately. Good ideas will be mentioned again and again. The good ideas, if they are good ideas, should be met with praise with all the people from your round table. Even then, whether it's "good" or not is questionable. The guys at the duel shrine... their idea of improving PvP is mechanics mechanics mechanics... that's not all PvP is about. Some of you guys are so short sighted and only worried about balancing mechanics for the next PvP tourney.

The primary point of my last post was that the island should still be semi-exclusive. I personally think that was one of the best ideas on this server, along with paladins. What a lot of people fail to realize is to have PvP you need players, and to have players you need to appeal to many interests and play styles. Integrating crafting into PvE is just as big a part of PvP, I'd argue more so, than adjusting mini heal performance. This type of change will bring profit seekers to the game, which brings PKs to steal the profit, and good guys to fend off the PKs. This is a total WIN for the server. My point isn't to derail this into a crafting thread, but to reiterate that there is more to PvP than decreasing the wall of stone timer, allowing heal through poison, or banning mounts...

If he listened to you guys there would be no paladins, 10x the amount of PKs and new players (like the 7 I brought at one point, and they will return in due time if the server is in an acceptable state) would very quickly log out with a, "**** this I'm going back to WoW". I love having you guys (most of you) and you're a critical part of the server, but you aren't the only ones who love to PvP. I do too, I just don't like organized PvP. The only reason I play UO is for the sense of adventure. The adventure aspect of PvP is what I'm trying to encourage. If you notice, I didn't suggest a change to mechanics. Just to keep the islands exclusive!

Sorry for the book, but sometimes huge changes are necessary. However, if you make a stupid huge change, your server eventually dies. If you make NO changes, your server eventually dies. If you cater only to one player group, your server eventually dies (at least the experience you want people to have dies). I think what you're vouching for is minor changes that have been mentioned already. I predict if he made those changes you'd get a few old faces to come back, but for how long? UO needs new faces, or at least faces from other servers to play here. I don't know if it's his intention, but I wouldn't be surprised if a few hybrid guys stop by to test out the parallel play with UO:R PvP. No matter the change, it's not like you guys are going to stop playing anyways lol - you've been here since day one and while you may threaten to leave few of you will follow through. If the golden lands could make Edgar leave (as I believe he said he was going to), I'd go buy a C# book right now and take a few vacation days at work and get **** done! Az is faced with drawing people back in, concentrating them, and balancing play styles all at once. He's trying to exercise foresight and I see a lot of narrow minded people here, hence why he is the designer and you guys are feedback. I'll happily hand over mechanics to you guys, but not PvP as a topic. Be a little more open minded, and a bit more cognizant of other players and their interests.

[bubs]

dominated!

[eric_azria]

The primary point of my last post was that the island should still be semi-exclusive. I personally think that was one of the best ideas on this server, along with paladins. What a lot of people fail to realize is to have PvP you need players, and to have players you need to appeal to many interests and play styles. Integrating crafting into PvE is just as big a part of PvP, I'd argue more so, than adjusting mini heal performance. This type of change will bring profit seekers to the game, which brings PKs to steal the profit, and good guys to fend off the PKs. This is a total WIN for the server. My point isn't to derail this into a crafting thread, but to reiterate that there is more to PvP than decreasing the wall of stone timer, allowing heal through poison, or banning mounts...

PVM/Crafting exclusive content has been mentioned by many of the people you assume are "short sighted" pvpers.

We've all included such things as crafting, and PVM in our lists, among other things that have brought different playstyles into the game over the years.

Considering everything revolves around PVP (for the majority), is it fair to say you're the short sighted one? Since you aren't putting the PVP changes above the crafting/PVE changes?

I know I've personally vouched for champ spawns, tailor/blacksmith rewards just to name a few.

[xiiiri]

Listen man, nothing against you personally - but you and the other people on your list aren't the only ones who play here. I respect everyone's input, even Edgar, who I think is a complete tool - and you should too. ****ty ideas will be brought up once and shot down immediately. Blah blah blah im a ****ing idiot who doesn't know how pvp works yet think I should have a say because my mommy told me I am special.

Edited hard because I think you would commit suicide if you read what i wrote and I don't want that on my conscience.

PS Kalanmyr, when it comes to proposed fixes I think you haven't come up with a single ****ing idea.

Where as I actually have. Oh heres a quick few that aren't all PVP specific.

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...ep-sea-fishing

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...0972-Mini-Heal

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...-Yew-Jail-POLL

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...for-gold-sinks

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...oken-OCB-Hours

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...8DURING-OCB%29

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...ill-broken-%28

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...-QUOTA-Farming

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...ething-to-lose

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...-weaken-guards

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...eal-Team-Six**

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...-No-Recall-OCB

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...a-Only-Dungeon

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...BILITY-VISIBLE

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...p-OCB-Dungeons

AND what have you posted or came up with?

http://inporylem.com/forum/showthrea...on-and-housing

Ya you are the most ****ing proactive person on the shard when it comes to GREAT IDEAS, your opinions should matter; ya you should make more posts about how they should matter. ESPECIALLY when it comes to pvp. Ya you should actually PERSONALLY design a new pvp system revolving around your great ideas. No really I mean it just go write another paper about how you respect other peoples ideas but that you have a lot of valid points and should be taken quite seriously because you had 7 guys on the shard that wouldn't even pvp unless there was a house within 2 screens or had 3:1 odds AS PALLYS. We need more of that, give me more of that on IPY and this server would be fixed. No this server would ****ing thrive with your great ideas. You are a UO idea god. All hail Kalanmyr the UO idea god.

The only thing that is true is that it is probably way to late to mitigate the damage done by stagnancy and horrible ideas. 300+ pvpers gone and they are probably not coming back. And you know who stayed? Serial losers and house hiders.