the golden land...

[[Majestic]Wire]

Perhaps you guys are too far down the road with this development to bail out on it now, that's understandable. You've done a lot of work into something, and it's too much to throw away now even after the negative reception of the majority of your community. Maybe if you would've let out some info in piece meal, a.k.a. had a discussion with your community about what changes were going to be made, you'd have had been able to get good feed back that could've steered IPY 2,5 into an actually sensible direction. Now you've successfully alienated I'd say the majority of your remaining player base by announcing something that feels completely wrong. I still can't get over the fact that you've brought up renaissance PvP so many times on this forum, but every time the community has said no, but that didn't mean anything to you? It's also like Wire says, if someone wants a shard with mounts there are many more options that are better than IPY. You're trying to appeal to everyone, but end up appealing to noone. We want to play in the old world, with the current systems, tweaked and perfected from community feedback since we've tried it now for so many months, that's what we like about this shard. Did you notice that a couple of months ago, you were up to about 1k players, just from the announcement of IPY 2,5? People will come back to an actively managed shard where there's great interaction between developers and players. That's something which will keep a shard good and interesting. To try to build a shard on the concept of the only thing that's fun is a fresh start, is pretty short sighted I think.

agreed

[Snake]

i bet all these guys crying about it are going to be some of the first guys in the new land with 7x gm chars and ****, playing it up like madmen.

[Zoidberg]

Not making a character in the new lands....

[Gore]

i bet all these guys crying about it are going to be some of the first guys in the new land with 7x gm chars and ****, playing it up like madmen.

no .

[[Majestic]Wire]

i bet all these guys crying about it are going to be some of the first guys in the new land with 7x gm chars and ****, playing it up like madmen.

Snake your stupidity shines again!

[Dedalus]

i bet all these guys crying about it are going to be some of the first guys in the new land with 7x gm chars and ****, playing it up like madmen.

Even if I liked Uo:R (which I don't) I can't possible compete with mounts from Europe in an american server.
As stated before it's not even about believing in this project a the moment , mounts will just cut out any comunity not based in North America.

[Stencils]

North America in the house!!!

[Kleus]

I don't mind the new facet, my only concern is mounts.

Why can't we design a realistic mount situation. Battles were not all faught purely from horseback. I always hated the "requirement" for mounted warfare when mounts DO exist.

Can we can make bola's dirt easy to acquire, and add in items such as falling off a mount stuns you for X seconds. Strong incentive is needed for the basic foot grunt, otherwise everything just becomes a galloping clogged mess of poorly animated mach4 horses.

There should be incentive for coordinated mounted groups, IE heavy calvary (or let's be realistic, mounted mages). There should also be strong incentive to not run your mount up against polearms from a guy on foot.

This man has it right. UO is always mounts or no mounts. Why can't there be a middle ground? Why can't less used weapons like pitchforks, bardaches, or the worst maces do some sort of extra health/stamina damage to mounted players? If not that, then make bolas 2000 gp each on vendors and pretty easy to make yourself. I feel caught in the middle. I like the paladin system but want red penalties taken down just a hair and I don't want mounts. F*ck. I know I said I'd remain neutral. Really dislike mounts though.

[Snake]

Even if I liked Uo:R (which I don't) I can't possible compete with mounts from Europe in an american server.
As stated before it's not even about believing in this project a the moment , mounts will just cut out any comunity not based in North America.

this is a load of ****. people have been playing UO since 1997 bro, you think people had great pings on dial up? my ping is 150+ regularly, sometimes even around 300, it's not even the factor it used to be any more though. what's the difference between mounted and not mounted when pings involved. everyone is still locked into the same run speed, its not like you're going to be trying to outrun mounted players on foot. this argument is nonsensical. if your ping is 500 or some **** now it's not going to be any worse whether you're on a horse or not.


also it's just going to be all the sweeter when all you nerds saying "no never" do check out the new lands. maybe i should screenshot this page for when it happens. i think i will!

This man has it right. UO is always mounts or no mounts. Why can't there be a middle ground? Why can't less used weapons like pitchforks, bardaches, or the worst maces do some sort of extra health/stamina damage to mounted players? If not that, then make bolas 2000 gp each on vendors and pretty easy to make yourself. I feel caught in the middle. I like the paladin system but want red penalties taken down just a hair and I don't want mounts. F*ck. I know I said I'd remain neutral. Really dislike mounts though.

when special moves were put in some weapons were given dismount specials. i think it might be a good idea to include them but i think it's better to wait and see before adding that type of deal. bolas aren't bad though and were always reuseable, i can't see those not being included as im almost 100% they were in UO:R.

[Snake]

oh and hey if you guys truly dont want to go to the new lands, guess what, you don't have to! that's the best part of this whole deal. you're getting all the changes for the IPY you love and people like me who want a truer oldschool UO experience are getting a UO:R server! awesome!