Time to hunt some ORK

[johny_b_co]

The time has come for some of the smaller guilds to band together to take back ice isle. I see many small groups fight them off but lack of organization seems to be our biggest down fall. I propose an alliance of some smaller guilds under one common name to support each other with crafting, pvp, and OCB. A small group of us have set footholds near the Ork base to aid in our efforts. If you would like to get into some good pvp, and earn some nice loot with a large group to support you let your guild know about this concept.

[McCool]

They are kinda like athletes foot, sure you can rub some cream on it or even pee on your feet in the shower. But they eventually come back no matter what. This has been attempted multiple times but eventually they rear their ugly heads again and need to be rubbed out or peed on once more.

[Genocide]

Get ahold of one of the Divine Empire leaders :)

[BizzyBeast]

They are kinda like athletes foot, sure you can rub some cream on it or even pee on your feet in the shower. But they eventually come back no matter what. This has been attempted multiple times but eventually they rear their ugly heads again and need to be rubbed out or peed on once more.

I just checked, WebMD confirms this is a proper method of curing athletes foot. Here I just thought you were weird.

[johny_b_co]

That is what makes it fun tho, they keep coming back.

[G.G.]

There are only three players who regularly play their orks and eight at most. You guys are always out-numbering the orks. I don't know why you need to band people together against three people. One of the three is a complete newb. So why do you need to 'call to arms' against the terrible force of the orks?

Really?

[Muy]

GG, they have the only Ice Castle and inexhaustible supplies.

[G.G.]

GG, they have the only Ice Castle and inexhaustible supplies.

Yes they have the only Ice Castle, but the supplies are constantly being replenished by hard work. They don't get all their 'funds' from killing other players. They work very hard for everything and greater majority of every encounter they are outnumbered.

[wgehalo]

I'll be fighting the orks once my pvper is done...it's taking forever.

Orks want war, lets give it to em!

[Jacka]

GO ORKS!!!!

[Wyrm'gard]

Stop by Yew on your way out to Dagger Isle and I'm sure you'll find some people ready to take up arms with you against the Orks! Don't let the nay-sayers trouble you; agents of darkness I'm sure they are. Take the fight to them and snuff out those savages!

[BizzyBeast]

Orks can be cowardly and a little annoying, but honestly at least they dont bitch and brag like majority of PKs do. Also theyve stuck around and not blamed their short comings as PKs on Az, something else the other PKs dont do.

[GunSixShot]

i have to agree with that aspect, they dont blame az for their short comings, they simply either take statloss, or they pay their debts. other than that though, i hate them. :D

[Malveiliant]

Hehe.. yes please! band together.. Id like more blues showing up to my island.. Be sure to keep your boat on you =P

[Hawk]

People always say the odds are against the ORKs, i have never seen this, maybe once i have seen 4v3, but when they are carrying heavy vanq x bows who cares. If you want to eradicate the already dying ORK its simple, just have equal or more numbers and heavy x bows of power or higher and target one guy, GG.

[hoss1125]

well yall didnt think you could farm one of the best spots on the shard w/o any risks?Yall gotta come prepared. keep up the good work orks!!

[G.G.]

People always say the odds are against the ORKs, i have never seen this, maybe once i have seen 4v3, but when they are carrying heavy vanq x bows who cares. If you want to eradicate the already dying ORK its simple, just have equal or more numbers and heavy x bows of power or higher and target one guy, GG.

this person doesn't have a clue



Orks can be cowardly and a little annoying, but honestly at least they dont bitch and brag like majority of PKs do. Also theyve stuck around and not blamed their short comings as PKs on Az, something else the other PKs dont do.

well said

[Kalanmyr]

this person doesn't have a clue




well said

I'm sure he does have a clue. In fact, my experience is in line with his. I have never seen the Orks engaged in an even fight. Keep in mind this is my experience, not something subjective. There is one honorable mention of Dabub on Hythloth, he fought hard and ended in me fleeing after trying to kill him for 10 minutes. Chain hiding + healing is a powerful survival tool....

I've visited Deceit several times and I see at most a group of 3 players farming, but it's usually a partnership or a solo player. The Orks roll with no less than 3, so I can see where Hawk may be coming from.

Maybe Grimson(R.I.P) and Mal are just misrepresenting the population, but they certainly have been known to complain about the Red/Paladin situation. With their complaints not being taken seriously, they decided to exploit the flaws in the Paladin system with the goal of griefing the server into submission.

I enjoy the fact that they travel in packs. I expect them to outnumber their victims, that is how they function. I empathize with the red situation - I'm in the process of making several and I'm not looking forward to being pallywhacked myself. The Orks are fun to fight with (when they fight with semi-even numbers and don't haul ass to their houses), but don't plead innocent to all of these accusations.

Perhaps my experience is too limited, but I've also heard accounts of the Orks severely outnumbering the victims.

[Corrado]

Usually the Orks will attack anyone with whatever numbers are online. If there are 4 Orks and 2 blues, then so be it. But when there are 4 Orks and 4 Paladins, you bet your ass the Orks will get into their houses. Being statted is NOT fun. It happens, we take our stat, pay our fees, remacro, whatever. But we aren't stupid enough to virtually guarantee a Pally-death. The problem is that blues can't tell who is a paladin in their group.

You blues/whites have to keep in mind that when you die, you lose nothing except your pvp gear and maybe a little pride. When Orks die we lose our gear and often 15% of our skills and stats. Remember when you have 3-5 random blues grouped with you fighting 3-5 Orks, that at least 1 or 2 of those blues are likely White to us...And any blues that randomly show up for the action, likely came when their Paladin Orb went off, they will also be White to us...

PS. we don't all run around with vanqs and invul armor, that's ridiculous. My Ork has a ruin bow, a might heavy Xbow, and a GM Qstaff right now. That's my typical setup. Most of our "good" loot comes from the blues we kill that came at us with force+ weapons.

[JenSlade]

I rarely see orks in deceit....when I do though they usually have at least a few with some blue help. Which is to be expected.

im glad they frequent deceit. Thanks for the fun orks!!

[Kachina Masika]

The Orks may not outnumber their assailants as far as guild tag goes, but they have UND, various reds and greys on their side. I'm not complaining about this at all. Just LOLing at the people who claim the Orks are that helpless and should be so easily overcome. Dagger Isle is an island of griefers, and even if the Orks don't invite said griefers to aid them, they're going to dash headfirst into the battle and disrupt it. Not the Orks' fault, just the way the cookie crumbles. Don't expect anything from Deceit unless you plan to grief it back so hard that the other griefers quit themselves.

[Freight Elevator]

I'm sure he does have a clue. In fact, my experience is in line with his. I have never seen the Orks engaged in an even fight. Keep in mind this is my experience, not something subjective. There is one honorable mention of Dabub on Hythloth, he fought hard and ended in me fleeing after trying to kill him for 10 minutes. Chain hiding + healing is a powerful survival tool....

I've visited Deceit several times and I see at most a group of 3 players farming, but it's usually a partnership or a solo player. The Orks roll with no less than 3, so I can see where Hawk may be coming from.

Maybe Grimson(R.I.P) and Mal are just misrepresenting the population, but they certainly have been known to complain about the Red/Paladin situation. With their complaints not being taken seriously, they decided to exploit the flaws in the Paladin system with the goal of griefing the server into submission.

I enjoy the fact that they travel in packs. I expect them to outnumber their victims, that is how they function. I empathize with the red situation - I'm in the process of making several and I'm not looking forward to being pallywhacked myself. The Orks are fun to fight with (when they fight with semi-even numbers and don't haul ass to their houses), but don't plead innocent to all of these accusations.

Perhaps my experience is too limited, but I've also heard accounts of the Orks severely outnumbering the victims.

Accurate as far as my experiences with them as well.



but honestly at least they dont bitch and brag like majority of PKs do. Also theyve stuck around and not blamed their short comings as PKs on Az, something else the other PKs dont do.


This is a joke right?

[G.G.]

I can only speak for myself in regards to complaining to the red/paladin system, pally-wacking, stat-loss and I cannot recall when I have done any of that.

I also never said the orks are helpless or innocent. I said in response to the original post and the WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD calling to band together forces:

There are only three players who regularly play their orks and eight at most. You guys are always out-numbering the orks. I don't know why you need to band people together against three people. One of the three is a complete newb. So why do you need to 'call to arms' against the terrible force of the orks?

What happened a month ago is LONG gone history. So if you're basing your information or opinion on HISTORY that is not relevant to what is happening now.

I was sold on this game because it was a chance to have all the thrill of danger and death happening any moment in random acts of violence. To truly choose every moment to be good or bad, help or hurt. I was prepared for a lot more danger before IPY opened and from what I understand it is pretty 'safe' in comparison to some. I love what the orks bring to this game. I'm grateful they took me on and are teaching me. I'm also happy for the blues (not so much the whites) that come to the island to play.

Its anything goes playground... OooOoo danger... heart pounding so hard you can't hear anyone on vent. weeeeeeeee I love this game. Even when I get smashed 7v1 and statted though it does smart/suck. I enjoy the excitement even when I die. Its all an adventure. Its nothing personal. I hope everyone has fun with the orks no matter who lives or dies.


EDIT: Ok... its way more fun to kill everyone and live. I love beating people up even if the other orks are 'carrying me' because I'm a newb, I'm learning and sloooowly improving. DIE! <3

[Lambo]

I play a red kill people get killed , get pally whacked and pay it off. But its fun and a game , I enjoy it.

Some of my best ipy memories are fighting the orks , I am actually upset to see the lack of numbers they are producing recently.

There was a time when paladins needed to ban against them to solve the problem. Now some reds need to ban together behind the orks to take back ice. Its the cycle of the game. Its what makes it fun.

[Malveiliant]

I'm sure he does have a clue. In fact, my experience is in line with his. I have never seen the Orks engaged in an even fight. Keep in mind this is my experience, not something subjective. There is one honorable mention of Dabub on Hythloth, he fought hard and ended in me fleeing after trying to kill him for 10 minutes. Chain hiding + healing is a powerful survival tool....

I've visited Deceit several times and I see at most a group of 3 players farming, but it's usually a partnership or a solo player. The Orks roll with no less than 3, so I can see where Hawk may be coming from.

Maybe Grimson(R.I.P) and Mal are just misrepresenting the population, but they certainly have been known to complain about the Red/Paladin situation. With their complaints not being taken seriously, they decided to exploit the flaws in the Paladin system with the goal of griefing the server into submission.

I enjoy the fact that they travel in packs. I expect them to outnumber their victims, that is how they function. I empathize with the red situation - I'm in the process of making several and I'm not looking forward to being pallywhacked myself. The Orks are fun to fight with (when they fight with semi-even numbers and don't haul ass to their houses), but don't plead innocent to all of these accusations.

Perhaps my experience is too limited, but I've also heard accounts of the Orks severely outnumbering the victims.

Wasn't it you and 5 other paladins that put the ONLY 3 of us on in stat the other day? I've seen you on many occasions out number our Ork with your Pally tank mage squads. Don't for one minute say you "have never seen the orks engage in an even fight." The most retarded post on here.. and there are a few =P

[Malveiliant]

People always say the odds are against the ORKs, i have never seen this, maybe once i have seen 4v3, but when they are carrying heavy vanq x bows who cares. If you want to eradicate the already dying ORK its simple, just have equal or more numbers and heavy x bows of power or higher and target one guy, GG.

The ork have yet to acquire a vanq heavy.. keep trying =)

[Malveiliant]

Accurate as far as my experiences with them as well.



This is a joke right?

Freight your Garbage.. ran from a fair fight only to bring in double numbers plus a FI pally.. You'll stay the **** off my island if you value your healthbar.

[JenSlade]

Not sure how anyone can really hate on the orks or any reds for that matter. Almost like some of you expect reds to fight all the time totally fair and equal...

Its uo and especially here reds are at such a disadvantage that how can you honestly hate on em for rolling large or having blue healers or using any slight advantage?

Honestly there needs to be more reds on this server and I give props to any and all reds here, and you all should too.

[Malveiliant]

Oh and.... I have sent war invites to all the guilds I can think of. So far only one accepted and I have yet to see them. So I'd appreciate guilds to accept/invite war request.

Buur'zfizt Ork Clan

[Muy]

What's Grimson up to these days? Malve, you keep in touch with him?

[Malveiliant]

What's Grimson up to these days? Malve, you keep in touch with him?

Disappeared.. along with a few others who lived with him. Some of their houses already fell.

[Muy]

he's a "goon" isn't he?

The SA forums thread reads like a rage server-log now.. not suprised the goon population died off.

[Corrado]

Look at this big bad Ork. He's so tough it's unbelievable! Come on guys, you don't need to band together to fight the 3-5 of us that even play, and the ONE Undead that rolls with us.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8077/orkskills.png

[Fletcher]

If you don't have the numbers, don't complain, get the numbers. Build an army, erect an empire -- UO baby.

[Axel]

I wonder if the orcs will EVER leave dagger isle.

Your main excuse is OCB is trammelite pvp ? Seems like you guys are just trying to hide from paladins, using the same trammel noob tactics you always use, archers and house hiding.


As I said a while ago, enjoy house hiding on your island noobs.


p.s. gg you suck, playing on a dexxer doesn't count for ****.

[Corrado]

You're a moron. Of course we stay on the island to avoid paladins. Do you think we're retarded?

One paladin kill can cost thousands of gold or weeks of macroing. Most of our characters aren't all that great, besides, EVERYONE that comes to Ice is a fair target. Nobody that's new has any business at all there. We never EVER have to feel bad about who we kill, every single person we encounter is either there for PVP, or is there knowing the risk they are taking. Would you prefer we run around like the Koreans and clear out Despise until a challenge shows up then just go hide? Does 'Hosed your chick' have more pvp skill and more pk prowess than the Orks? Give me a break.

We only house hide when the numbers are horribly against us, or there are a lot of paladins there. I don't know if you're truly this stupid, or if you honestly don't understand how the paladin system works. But if one of them kills us, we lose out on either a TON of gold, or weeks of rebuilding our character. You lose 75ea reg and some leather armor. See the difference?

We almost all play dexers because Orcs always play dexers. Hell, if we were all on mages we'd really rip people apart, as it is now people get away a lot because we can't para-gank, cross heal, synch-dump etc.

As long as you're going to sit here like a forum warrior and not come fight us, then you can keep your mouth shut. If you come to our island and we're on, expect a fight. If you bring a paladin gank, expect us to save our characters and not fight them and risk losing everything. Paladins take all the fun out of pvp.

[Axel]

That whole post seems invalid to me since you guys die to paladins anyway.

And yes hosed your chick is better, he goes solo or with his brother roaming the dungeons, the orcs run around with ATLEAST 4+ archer dexxers, with the op swing run speed and 50~ dmg xbow hits. I always find it humorous when the orcs try say they have skills.

[Dedalus]

Yes they have the only Ice Castle, but the supplies are constantly being replenished by hard work. They don't get all their 'funds' from killing other players. They work very hard for everything and greater majority of every encounter they are outnumbered.

GG is scared that now she joined Ork ranks they 'll make her craft stuff for free.

Joke aside, I can't see how can you complain people wants to team up against you: you are mostly 3 because you don't have more ppl to bring atm, When you do you certantly don't have any problem to gang 5vs2, to bring mages from wax ranks with you, like you didn't have problems to bring 8-10 players when you had the numbers 1-2 months ago.
So if 10vs2 worked for you before, it should work now the situation is reversed.

[steve-o]

to Axel & others who think that orks are alwais outnumbering you without fighting
excuse me but when are u in deceit? are u sure it's the right island...?
we are alwais on deceit and what corrado is saying is correct... when we meet them (all days) they are most of the time 2/3... the 10+ numbers are HISTORY!
it's funny to fight and die against them!

ps: they have vanq/power xboxs/maces, don't lie to me we usualy see that :)

[Malveiliant]

to Axel & others who think that orks are alwais outnumbering you without fighting
excuse me but when are u in deceit? are u sure it's the right island...?
we are alwais on deceit and what corrado is saying is correct... when we meet them (all days) they are most of the time 2/3... the 10+ numbers are HISTORY!
it's funny to fight and die against them!

ps: they have vanq/power xboxs/maces, don't lie to me we usualy see that :)

Im not lying... all I said was we have yet to see a vanq heavy xbow... Believe me if I had it Id definitely use it in a heartbeat.. I do use vanqs all day long.. why not? Just cause yall don't have em does not mean Im dis-allowed.

And Axel doesn't come to the island anymore cause hes lost too many boats to our kin. Axel I despise town fighting. I always have... now if OSI faction system were enabled.. (minax fort, yew crypts ect). Hell yah Id jump on that ****. So if your itching for a fight.. leave that bankbox of yours and sail over. Orks are not allowed to be tank mages. We limit the Mage numbers to give you guys a fighting chance. Besides.. Orc lore portrays them to be stupid brutish creatures. You can't expect us to RP a band of sync dumping, hally swinging mages.. thats idiotic to even suggest.

We have limited our numbers. Our main reason is trust.. we have to protect our characters constantly. If we mistakenly trust the wrong person and allow them to macro in the castle with us.. they simply have to let their paladin alts in to ruin our gameplay. We are not actively recruiting.. as of now its a referral basis.

If you guys have yet to figure it out.. most of the wax players ARE orc. Hence why you see them hunt/train together. Still don't see how it matters.. they are mostly stealth mages. For those of you as retarded as Axel - That means less dps and more of a support mage type playstyle.

We lay claim to the island yes.. under the name Buur'zfizt Ork Clan.. formally Boulderfizts.. since our leader has vanished we have taken up a new name and new ideals. We don't band together with all RED characters as some of you recently (foolishly) assume. No matter what your hue.. if your one ice and your not an ally... your stuffs R already belong to us. =)

[GunSixShot]

ur an idiot. and suck at RP, and the game itself.

[Freight Elevator]

Freight your Garbage.. ran from a fair fight only to bring in double numbers plus a FI pally.. You'll stay the **** off my island if you value your healthbar.

Yea, I guess 3v2 when we're low mana/aggro'ed on liches is a fair fight for how horrible you are.

Sucks that when we came back with the "unfair" 3v3 you were so easily killed.

How many counts did you have when you got statted?

Sorry I'm not sorry.

Seriously, stop using orc lore as a crux. You. Don't. Roleplay. We all train characters the same way, we all get the choice of who, when, and if to PK someone. Its not my fault you PK noobs, rack up counts and get statted when someone (most of the server) kills you.

P.S. I'm on your island farming solo all the time. I'll message you in IRC next time I go so you can come drop off your loot.

[Kalanmyr]

I can only speak for myself in regards to complaining to the red/paladin system, pally-wacking, stat-loss and I cannot recall when I have done any of that.

If you are speaking for yourself fine. I've never seen you cry or moan about the Pally/Red system, and I'm thankful. If that's the case then I wouldn't recommend commenting, "well said" to some guy who is claiming the Orks never complain. Sounds like you're speaking for the Orks and not just yourself.



I also never said the orks are helpless or innocent. I said in response to the original post and the WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD calling to band together forces:


There are only three players who regularly play their orks and eight at most. You guys are always out-numbering the orks. I don't know why you need to band people together against three people. One of the three is a complete newb. So why do you need to 'call to arms' against the terrible force of the orks?

This statement is subject to protest. When I first read it I was taken aback, but when you called Hawk clueless for his accusation I couldn't resist responding.


What happened a month ago is LONG gone history. So if you're basing your information or opinion on HISTORY that is not relevant to what is happening now.

The discovery of America is long gone history. The last time I was killed by 8 Orks as they rushed into my house with just the three of us was last month, relatively recent history. I have noticed the numbers are not as strong, but the Orks travelling with less than 3 is almost unseen. As someone else pointed out, if they aren't travelling with Orks they are travelling with whoever they can find to ally them, humans, undead, paladins, theives...


I was sold on this game because it was a chance to have all the thrill of danger and death happening any moment in random acts of violence. To truly choose every moment to be good or bad, help or hurt. I was prepared for a lot more danger before IPY opened and from what I understand it is pretty 'safe' in comparison to some. I love what the orks bring to this game. I'm grateful they took me on and are teaching me. I'm also happy for the blues (not so much the whites) that come to the island to play.

Its anything goes playground... OooOoo danger... heart pounding so hard you can't hear anyone on vent. weeeeeeeee I love this game. Even when I get smashed 7v1 and statted though it does smart/suck. I enjoy the excitement even when I die. Its all an adventure. Its nothing personal. I hope everyone has fun with the orks no matter who lives or dies.


EDIT: Ok... its way more fun to kill everyone and live. I love beating people up even if the other orks are 'carrying me' because I'm a newb, I'm learning and sloooowly improving. DIE! <3

This is well and good. I play UO for the same reason you do, and I'm happy to have a battle with the Orks even when outnumbered as long as it's no more lopsided than a 4 v 9. It's fun.

I play as a paladin because I think it's necessary to mantain the PvE population. Without them, being a PK would be even more difficult and unrewarding to sustain. I know my friends and family (brand new to UO) were discouraged when the Orks would mutliate them on Ice with shear numbers and wax would do the same with both numbers and vanquishing items... The presence of both is less at this time than it was 2 months ago.

In all honesty though, judging by the Orb flashes - I don't think much else has changed with Ork. I generally see Orb flashes in pairs, which makes me think the Orks are pouncing on two partners farming in Ice. I expect these pairs are generally outnumbered. I know John Jones and Wuharold frequent Deceit, this partnership I'm sure you're familiar with. Afterall, they are starting this "movement".


Wasn't it you and 5 other paladins that put the ONLY 3 of us on in stat the other day? I've seen you on many occasions out number our Ork with your Pally tank mage squads. Don't for one minute say you "have never seen the orks engage in an even fight." The most retarded post on here.. and there are a few =P

Last point I want to make is Ork Vs. Paladin is a cat and mouse game. The times where the Ork are outnumbered are the times when we are contacted by a solo player, or a small group of players farming in Deceit. We rally up a large squad who are interested in killing Orks. Yes you are outnumbered, but you understand this game. When we get there, you're generally already cozy in your house. If you don't think we're calling your bluff though, you may stay out on the field, but you run (as expected) at the first sign of a white name. You know we're coming for you.

Essentially, the Orks outnumber their victims when they can help it, and they often can help it... You'll never see a large group inside deceit farming away (because it isn't profitable) and then the Orks coming with a smaller group to kill them. What you will see is a small group in Deceit and then the Orks coming with a larger one to reap the rewards, then drop off loot before back up arrives. This may be followed by a blue Ork alt (this is where you come in Mal) masquerading outside the castle safe and sound.

The paladins I travel with in my guild are brand new to the game. If those are the paladins you're speaking of, I'm proud of them. Though only one truly plays anymore.

[Axel]

I don't know why you guys bother making orcish named characters or even say you are an RP guild, even in the smallest aspects of the word.

You are a sorry excuse for a dexxer zerg pk group, and if anyone played Divinity 2.0 and before 2.0 (not the orc guild that turned up at the end, i.e. smug'blun your sorry excuse for a guild leader) or OSI you would know what a real RP orc guild is like, not pvp built orcs where everyone uses archery and doesn't utter a word of orcish unless its a nice "Har har dum oomie" once you've finished the fight.

Where are the Orc vs Yew vs Undead battles?
Where is the RP?
Why do you guys talk **** about PvP on forums when your supposed to be an RP guild?
Where are the tribute requests, or hide ganks in dungeons?
Why do you play with alts at all or let them in orcish houses?


And yes I lost two boats, because I tried to fight you guys 3v1 and then 2v1, congrats on your 10k loot. The only reason I rarely ever go to deciet and hythloth is because it is a wasted 20 minute journey if I don't find anyone, its just not on my scouting circuit.

Im glad Orc and Wax are enjoying hiding on these islands.

[Hazzard]

Yes these are not the siege perilous orks from ea's up that's for sure, rather dissapointing

[Malveiliant]

Yea, I guess 3v2 when we're low mana/aggro'ed on liches is a fair fight for how horrible you are.

Sucks that when we came back with the "unfair" 3v3 you were so easily killed.

How many counts did you have when you got statted?

Sorry I'm not sorry.

Seriously, stop using orc lore as a crux. You. Don't. Roleplay. We all train characters the same way, we all get the choice of who, when, and if to PK someone. Its not my fault you PK noobs, rack up counts and get statted when someone (most of the server) kills you.

P.S. I'm on your island farming solo all the time. I'll message you in IRC next time I go so you can come drop off your loot.

Uhh.. you didn't stat me.. as stated in the other thread - you Statted a Deadie.. as in UND.. The third ork (kerplunc) was just there farming.. He never comes in vent so we were not aware he was there. If you recall: we ran into him while chasing you two mages (we being two dexers)out of the dungeon. in fact that SAME ork mysteriously went afk without word right as you came around the corner.. leading me to believe he was spying for YOU. We do rp.. but honesty.. how do you expect us to type and chase you down at the same time? Keep house hiding kthx. We do not pk noobs. Unless his name is John jones... noobs should not be on ice island.. we very rarely make trips to the mainland as the loot simply does not compare to what we may acquire here. I find it hard to believe you two juiced through 200 mana (assuming you both have 100 int) on one tiny little lich. Is your eval really that low?

[Axel]

also now that I think about it, the orcs love to say how they are bad ass reds and how the server is trammel which is just straight up bull****, the real reds are the ones that roam wherever the **** they want regardless of paladins and bounty hunters.

And by that logic I hosed your chick is far better than any "bad ass" orc.

[Malveiliant]

Yes you are outnumbered, but you understand this game.

Pretty sure your still butthurt about the boat you lost months ago. I was correcting you in my previous post.. you stated you NEVER see orks out numbered.. which is a lie. you have now contradicted yourself in this post. Thanks =)

[Alchontis]

Freight your Garbage.. ran from a fair fight only to bring in double numbers plus a FI pally.. You'll stay the **** off my island if you value your healthbar.

you say your island but i'm sure if that was true I wouldn't have a house there and make plenty of cash to support myself and others on that island when I/we go out and thats me alone not counting what other footholds are being stabalized there. you may have beaten me most of the time i go but I've not ran with a true and or total pvp group yet and I don't play enough now to do much about it at this moment. I am there and I am staying and I am coming with a much better plan than try to make it to my house with my loot. You and mnky I'm sure will be happy to have me. I'll see ya on the Island.

[Kalanmyr]

Pretty sure your still butthurt about the boat you lost months ago. I was correcting you in my previous post.. you stated you NEVER see orks out numbered.. which is a lie. you have now contradicted yourself in this post. Thanks =)

Boats are a dime a dozen. At the time I was upset that you stole a boat from my little cousin and brother and wouldn't give it back. That is like stealing from a NEW member. Then your griefing paladins managed to gnab one from me. At that point boats were floating around the guildhouse like they were GM hallys. I don't even think to bank my boat anymore. Ech Em Yoo inc. killed me and got it, then Paladin inc. killed him shortly after and I got it back. Could care less either way. All that to say... No I could care less.

I said I've never seen the Orks engage in an even fight. That's still true. Considering they are friended to half of the houses on Ice Island they run to the nearest house they are friended to when the fight looks like it's against them. This has been the case for nearly every encounter I've had with them. Several times I've come with a few family members to hunt but we would get 20 steps inside the dungeon before 2 by 2 the Orks start hiding outside of the dungeon waiting to have 6+ to gank us 3 or 4. We stopped coming to Ice with just us 3 or 4 to hunt because it happened religiously and they aren't competent enough PvPers to hold their ground yet (and 2 don't play anymore).

Thanks for getting nostalgic though. Makes me think of a time in the past where we were hunting in Destard and Horace Grull came through to get pally whacked. Then Sunshinebear followed. He was also pallywhacked. Then Mauragh strolled inside to see what was up. All he saw was a few hallys above his head, they fell down quick though. Good times. Three consecutive failures in such a short period of time. Quite a feat.

[Malveiliant]

also now that I think about it, the orcs love to say how they are bad ass reds and how the server is trammel which is just straight up bull****, the real reds are the ones that roam wherever the **** they want regardless of paladins and bounty hunters.

And by that logic I hosed your chick is far better than any "bad ass" orc.

I don't believe I ever mentioned a VERY dead facet of uo (trammel). Ive said in the past the palladin system is broken and it is.. Very Recently some of these problems have been fixed. Some have not.. we are still making moves to ensure our long term survival with this system..

Not sure what books your are reading.. but your are right and wrong.. some orcs do travel in roving bands murdering all in their path.. others setup up shop in forts to protect assets. Its all fair game.. still do not understand why you all care how we RP our characters.. VERY few poeple on this shard will ever interact with us in a RP manner. Some low skilled noobs and RP guilds (the few we have left). Yew being the more prominent of these guilds. I've seen them on the island only a few times - usually hunting their undead nemeisis'. Which is why we normally rp with one another.. If any ork is found out of character please SS it and pm it my way.. as its VERY againts the rules.

hosed your chick is probably the worst pk on this shard (aside from jody who really shouldn't count at all).. He and his partner hardly compare to ANY ork.. even GG - who has been pvping for 1-2 months now? Most of you have been doing this for 10+ years. I think its pretty funny you all are so hurt by how the Ork act. When orc in almost ANY story have been murderous, brutish humanoids bent on domination and wealth (pirate?). We will use any means necessary to rid our island of the fowl smelling human. If that means an alliance with pirates.. undead.. or any group with similar goals.

We have somewhat of an ROE with pk guilds who frequent the island. If there is no whites.. then all is fair game.. if a wytenaym has invaded the island.. damn streight we are banding together againts sombody looking for easy plat. I think right now there is only one other group of pks on the island.. a small band of mage pirates who are very fun to pvp with. I wish more guilds would take up a similar cause. Mnky tried to get reds to unify in this way. (ffa when there is no one else on the island.. or all for one when our stats are threatened) but instead ran for king. *shrug*

Please do band together.. you'll only force our hand to reach out for more recruits.. Then what will you do? Stick to the mainland probably =)

[Alchontis]

also now that I think about it, the orcs love to say how they are bad ass reds and how the server is trammel which is just straight up bull****, the real reds are the ones that roam wherever the **** they want regardless of paladins and bounty hunters.

And by that logic I hosed your chick is far better than any "bad ass" orc.
I don't like hosed but I do like Axel and pks/pvpers i've seen him with. damn good skill in pvp and I completely agree with what he's said. I expect I'll also see u there when things heat up so I look forward to the fight.

[Malveiliant]

Boats are a dime a dozen. At the time I was upset that you stole a boat from my little cousin and brother and wouldn't give it back. That is like stealing from a NEW member. Then your griefing paladins managed to gnab one from me. At that point boats were floating around the guildhouse like they were GM hallys. I don't even think to bank my boat anymore. Ech Em Yoo inc. killed me and got it, then Paladin inc. killed him shortly after and I got it back. Could care less either way. All that to say... No I could care less.

I said I've never seen the Orks engage in an even fight. That's still true. Considering they are friended to half of the houses on Ice Island they run to the nearest house they are friended to when the fight looks like it's against them. This has been the case for nearly every encounter I've had with them. Several times I've come with a few family members to hunt but we would get 20 steps inside the dungeon before 2 by 2 the Orks start hiding outside of the dungeon waiting to have 6+ to gank us 3 or 4. We stopped coming to Ice with just us 3 or 4 to hunt because it happened religiously and they aren't competent enough PvPers to hold their ground yet (and 2 don't play anymore).

Thanks for getting nostalgic though. Makes me think of a time in the past where we were hunting in Destard and Horace Grull came through to get pally whacked. Then Sunshinebear followed. He was also pallywhacked. Then Mauragh strolled inside to see what was up. All he saw was a few hallys above his head, they fell down quick though. Good times. Three consecutive failures in such a short period of time. Quite a feat.

Lol.. it was me against 5+ people that night.. I expected death.. thats funny now your bragging about a 5v1 with my alt characters. Horace has 68 resist and is GM hiding and stealth.. not even GM med. My thief (Maraugh) has 70 stealing,healing and mage and 0 resist. I was purposly flagging on my pally (who at the time was 4x) so I could attempt to pick you guys off. I expected nothing but a dirt nap =P

Cool story though. You and your fam cried for days about that small boat.. saying it was the only asset you had in game.. I laughed (A LOT). Though I eventually put the boat in the water. Unlocked it and kept the key. Allowing your kin AND YOU to complete their pally quests before it expired(I know you were there on one of your cousin's characters). AND still you bitched and moaned for weeks to give it back.

[Kalanmyr]

Lol.. it was me against 5+ people that night.. I expected death.. thats funny now your bragging about a 5v1 with my alt characters. Horace has 68 resist and is GM hiding and stealth.. not even GM med. My thief (Maraugh) has 70 stealing,healing and mage and 0 resist. I was purposly flagging on my pally (who at the time was 4x) so I could attempt to pick you guys off. I expected nothing but a dirt nap =P

Cool story though. You and your fam cried for days about that small boat.. saying it was the only asset you had in game.. I laughed (A LOT). Though I eventually put the boat in the water. Unlocked it and kept the key. Allowing your kin AND YOU to complete their pally quests before it expired(I know you were there on one of your cousin's characters). AND still you bitched and moaned for weeks to give it back.

I have a bad memory and that was so long ago. If it is the time I think you're referring to, you've just alluded to another joyous moment of retribution. I was playing my brothers character and died in the dungeon. We come out and West Tx ressurected me. He gave me a gm longsword and 20 bandages and told me to attack the two PKs there (Horace and someone else). I reluctantly did so thinking, "What do I have to lose?". Expecting death, like you have come to expect when you face Pally inc., I was surprised that Tx and I were able to kill you two. A provoker and a 0x mage with no reagents, just a long sword.

I don't care if you have 50 magery 50 resist and 0 of everything else, nor do I care if it's 100 v 1. Killing a bastard is satisfying either way. I only protested once. I asked you to return the boat and do the right thing for the new players and then recalled out. I didn't dwell over a lost boat. I did, however, pick on them for losing it - and it actually became a joke. Alas, they've grown up and moved on, could you do either or?

[papermario25]

I too remember this night... It was dark, stormy I was on the first boat I had ever seen, but soon I wanted to get off it as soon as possible for there had been a dead ork body on the boats hull. I didn't know what was happening cause within minutes it had gone all wrong for a weird name popped up "maraugh" what a peculiar name I thought so I didn't say anything trying to be polite, but withing seconds my bandages were depleted without using a single one. So I saw it was a thief, knowing we may be able to keep the boat. Soon we were at ice and I was stuck for the boat and my cousin were gone. I soon knew with the help of a GM I was not getting off the island with the storm a blazing and all. So I summoned myself a blade spirit knowing I needed to die in fashion. Finally upon arrival at mainland with the help of "help I'm stuck" I was back in town, but yuck I saw "maraugh" again. I soon complained because of course I was NEW and wanted the boat back. I was asking, but getting no where so I left. The next time I saw Horace gull and inc. I knew revenge would taste sweet like the chocolate chip cookie I was eating. Although I'm not sure I ever got the revenge myself that day will come and I will be ready ;) And that is my story.

[G.G.]

Most of you look so much friendlier than you seem in-game...

I think we need to remember that this is a game and perceptions can be deceiving. Everyone has their own opinions, but in the end we all just want to have fun.

Lets have fun :D


oh and DIE! DIE! DIE! I <3 you all

[Strife]

also now that I think about it, the orcs love to say how they are bad ass reds and how the server is trammel which is just straight up bull****, the real reds are the ones that roam wherever the **** they want regardless of paladins and bounty hunters.

And by that logic I hosed your chick is far better than any "bad ass" orc.Since there is **** slinging. Show Money and hosed > wax also.

[hoss1125]

Strife you gotta be kidding me right? you show money boys have been getting juiced by me so bad lately (Dabub the ork) its not even funny, care to dabble when u brought down 6 and me kerplunc and ashly swamped you boys or any other time, sorry you dont hold a candle to us, have u ever seen 100 shorts? this guys cryin over the red system cause they are upside on their gold to buyout ratio.. we have made millions pkin notice the castle? and as far aS us hiding on islands we re simply playin the game we wanna play..

[Malveiliant]

Yes these are not the siege perilous orks from ea's up that's for sure, rather dissapointing

Sadly I am the only one left on this shard that did play Siege.. That was my favorite shard.

[Malveiliant]

I have a bad memory and that was so long ago. If it is the time I think you're referring to, you've just alluded to another joyous moment of retribution. I was playing my brothers character and died in the dungeon. We come out and West Tx ressurected me. He gave me a gm longsword and 20 bandages and told me to attack the two PKs there (Horace and someone else). I reluctantly did so thinking, "What do I have to lose?". Expecting death, like you have come to expect when you face Pally inc., I was surprised that Tx and I were able to kill you two. A provoker and a 0x mage with no reagents, just a long sword.

I don't care if you have 50 magery 50 resist and 0 of everything else, nor do I care if it's 100 v 1. Killing a bastard is satisfying either way. I only protested once. I asked you to return the boat and do the right thing for the new players and then recalled out. I didn't dwell over a lost boat. I did, however, pick on them for losing it - and it actually became a joke. Alas, they've grown up and moved on, could you do either or?

Close.. it was I who ressed you.. but then you told a bold faced lie.. so I would not heal you.. you got all upset and ganked me while i was camping an idoc. only reason you were able to down me was the other person you were with was a macer and i was scrubbin it without pots... think he was a third besides west tx.. Aaaragon or somthing

[Strife]

Strife you gotta be kidding me right? you show money boys have been getting juiced by me so bad lately (Dabub the ork) its not even funny, care to dabble when u brought down 6 and me kerplunc and ashly swamped you boys or any other time, sorry you dont hold a candle to us, have u ever seen 100 shorts? this guys cryin over the red system cause they are upside on their gold to buyout ratio.. we have made millions pkin notice the castle? and as far aS us hiding on islands we re simply playin the game we wanna play..The difference is, the people I listed have the balls to go to the popular dungeons and deal with pallies. Not blue scout Hyloth to kill tamers & bards

I also have nothing to do with Show Money. I just simply have a level of respect for people who live true to the color red.

[johny_b_co]

the whole reason i made this post is because when the orks are outnumbered, they are out numbered by small unorganized groups. not one huge 8 man group. ( at least not when i fight them ) I wanted to make a way to get everyone organized who want to fight against orks.

I love ice isle for the pvp and the loot. I think the pally system is harsh and have the entire time i played this shard. If anything they should just stay dead for an hour per count in my opinion.

[Sunday Roast]

Surely if there were no Orks protecting the island then it'd just be another easy gold farming opportunity and therefore lacking in excitement?

[hoss1125]

you can take my word for it ive killed 5x the pallies you have, the only red im hesitant to fight pallies is on shadow who has 199 shorts which i still fight pallies with, and i ive got a mainland PK ive got 4 total you just hear about all the fuss on the islands cause who wants to give respect when their group has just lost 15k

[Corrado]

Surely if there were no Orks protecting the island then it'd just be another easy gold farming opportunity and therefore lacking in excitement?

You're right.

The Orks add some excitement and danger to Ice Island, and only Ice Island. We don't roam the mainlands killing newbies in Despise or Shame, we don't harass people at the GY, and we don't talk **** to people after we kill them.

We will use certain things to our advantage obviously (hiding, running, confusion, archery coordination, etc) but we don't cheat and we don't run our mouths in game. If you show up with a bunch of paladins, expect us to leave/switch to blue characters. We are in this for fun, not for rebuilding our characters over and over again due to Paladin ganks. If we get ganked by blues, we will restock and come back for more as long as the numbers aren't horribly in favor of the other team.

[Malveiliant]

Surely if there were no Orks protecting the island then it'd just be another easy gold farming opportunity and therefore lacking in excitement?

That and they wouldn't have anything to rant about on these forums=)

[Hawk]

this person doesn't have a clue




well said

I have ran into you guys about 10 times, and I never had more than you. If I did it was like a provoker or something worthless, and you had dexxers with magic heavy x bows. It was sync heavy hits, and hope we drop one or run. Boring.

[Kalanmyr]

Close.. it was I who ressed you.. but then you told a bold faced lie.. so I would not heal you.. you got all upset and ganked me while i was camping an idoc. only reason you were able to down me was the other person you were with was a macer and i was scrubbin it without pots... think he was a third besides west tx.. Aaaragon or somthing

Lmao! I do remember that, we were all giggling when I told them, "Some red just asked if I was here with other blues, I told him 'no'!". Little did I know that they (Felixius and Fpapa) befriended you earlier that day, and that you knew of them all along. They were laughing when they realized Horace Grull was the red who questioned me. Don't hold that against me, what did you expect me to say to a strange red, "Yeah my buddies are downstairs with the gold they've been farming all long"?

What good is rezzing someone on Hythloth and leave them with 1 hp and no regs? I would have rather you left that character dead so he didn't lose more fame when I tried to get back to my body... So West Tx did in fact rez me after I died to a snake running back toward a dungeon. There was not a third blue attacking you. It was you two reds against Tx and a character with 80 swordsmanship and 50 healing. Nobody was helping Tx and I, I remember because I was very amazed that we killed you two (wouldn't have been amazed if it was a 2.1 vs 2). I also remember Felixius telling me to stop attacking you that you were a friend of his.

Even though they were upset that we killed you at first, "Now we'll never get to farm in Hythloth cause all the reds want us dead, thanks Kalanmyr..." In retrospect, they are happy Tx rolled over both of you guys (I'm not even going to acknowledge Gandalf's presence), especially after realizing you were an Ork, in particular Mauraugh. They hate you for stealing their boat. I'm glad though, you taught them a lesson they needed to learn and reminded me (on two occasions) 1) It's easy to steal a boat 2) It sucks being a paladin when your boat is being stolen.

Sorry for the personal anecdote. I don't know why I felt the need to flesh things out - I'm just bored. See you on the battle field! Remember folks, let the reds kill HuG before you kill the reds!

[Muy]

You can't fight on Ice/Fire island without numbers. There's always ample competition.

[Malveiliant]

See you on the battle field! Remember folks, let the reds kill HuG before you kill the reds!

That makes me giggle.. you realize one of the sole purposes I still have the HuG guild is to prevent you all from farming plat. I horde that ****.. I refuse to sell it even. The less armor you have - the easier the Ork to kill you =)

So please.. step aside.. let carebears dish out the justice =)

[Kalanmyr]

That makes me giggle.. you realize one of the sole purposes I still have the HuG guild is to prevent you all from farming plat. I horde that ****.. I refuse to sell it even. The less armor you have - the easier the Ork to kill you =)

So please.. step aside.. let carebears dish out the justice =)

Don't use plat. Never have never will. I do have over 500 though. Not interested in paladin items. 90% of the time I don't even use the Orb, someone else tells me about a murder or I go patrol.

[Malveiliant]

...and here I sit thinking you were just another scrub who couldn't afford it. Why don't you show Maraugh how much plat you have next time we are at the bank together? hehe

You could make a good buck selling it to the Arbys.. they are always looking.

[Xuxa]

arbies bought all my plat :P

[Saruk]

he's a "goon" isn't he?

The SA forums thread reads like a rage server-log now.. not suprised the goon population died off. man, don't **** talk Grim. That dude has helped alot of players on EVERY server we have played. He helped new members of the guild get their house [he'd meet em half on the gold]. I gave and will still give everything I earn ingame to my guild because they always took care of me. Seems to me everythime I read a post from you it reeks of sour grapes. Yeah, I'm back around now and look forward to the fights.

[Saruk]

I don't know why you guys bother making orcish named characters or even say you are an RP guild, even in the smallest aspects of the word.

You are a sorry excuse for a dexxer zerg pk group, and if anyone played Divinity 2.0 and before 2.0 (not the orc guild that turned up at the end, i.e. smug'blun your sorry excuse for a guild leader) or OSI you would know what a real RP orc guild is like, not pvp built orcs where everyone uses archery and doesn't utter a word of orcish unless its a nice "Har har dum oomie" once you've finished the fight.

Where are the Orc vs Yew vs Undead battles?
Where is the RP?
Why do you guys talk **** about PvP on forums when your supposed to be an RP guild?
Where are the tribute requests, or hide ganks in dungeons?
Why do you play with alts at all or let them in orcish houses?


And yes I lost two boats, because I tried to fight you guys 3v1 and then 2v1, congrats on your 10k loot. The only reason I rarely ever go to deciet and hythloth is because it is a wasted 20 minute journey if I don't find anyone, its just not on my scouting circuit.

Im glad Orc and Wax are enjoying hiding on these islands. I see Scotland still produces ****s You must still be hurting from the assrapes we handed you and your ***got excuses for a team. :) balls deep in ya, girl :P